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Releases / Re: AKB49 Chapter 97
« on: December 24, 2012, 12:50:01 am »
Personal Reccomendation:

Read this chapter with this song playing in the background.

Meet The Staff / Re: Hello, and a question.
« on: November 17, 2012, 08:27:25 pm »
What the... How did your denoise and level did so much, more so than what my burning did....

Okay, in steps.

1) I first use the ruler tool to re-angle the page with arbitary something.. (apparently its slightly tilted)

2) I then cropped the page, the black stuff on the right side, the uneven on the top and the bottom and left the left side alone.

3) I then used smart sharpen, 150 and 1.5 radius

4) Next, convert to RGB mode.

5) Used denoise 3, Suppress noise: .5, Recover details: .1, Clean: .5, Reduce Blur: .4

6) Used denoise 5, Overall Strength: .7, Reduce Blur: .1

7) Then I change the pic back to grayscale mode and some weird pop up came. (Discard color information? Then something about changing to black and white instead but i just clicked discard.)

8) Then I started leveling and things started looking weird. The graph had no 2 hills, only one hill on the far right and no hill on the left side... all there were was a small little bump so I just dragged the slider around there.

9) I started burning and found a ton of white spots that you just can't burn away so I used the polygon and fill tool.

10) Found everything started looking weird and messed up on a couple of burning so I posted here to get more advice.

Meet The Staff / Re: Hello, and a question.
« on: November 17, 2012, 06:21:33 am »
Okay, I keep trying but I keep feeling like I am doing it wrong...

This is how it looks like after I level and just as I feared, before I level there are no two hills, only one hill on the far right side so I just randomly did the left marker...

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I tried to do the burning after it but it seemed like I was burning everything wrong and a couple of details got wiped out into the black hole too...

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Any advice?

Meet The Staff / Re: Hello, and a question.
« on: November 12, 2012, 10:49:37 pm »
Hey there, I dont have an exam tomorrow so i took the night off and thought i would lend a hand.

Before Tammy yells at me and says that i'm wrong, these are the settings i use

Select smart sharpen
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My settings for sharpen
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Keep the radius at 1.5.

My denoise three
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Have suppress noise between 0.5 and 1.3 (Any lower and it doesn't make the patterns distinct enough)
Recover Details between 0-0.50
Clean between 0.50-1.00
Reduce blur 0.10-0.50

Desnoise 5
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With denoise 5 preferably use two run throughs ar lower settings than one big one

and with the denoising depending on the page, it's up to your judgment to decide how much the image needs you don't want the image losing too much detaill or becoming sharp
Go: Denoise 3, denoise 5, denoise 5 (optional), level at 8000px, denoise 5.
For denoise 5, the max your reduce blur should be at is 0.25. anything between 0.10-0.25 is all right, anything more and the image becomes too sharp.

As for leveling, it's really about using judgement. Be at a zoom where you can see a significant area of the page (a part including blacks, whites, and patterns) then move the sliders around and change them according to what happens to each part of the page.

Wow, all that was really really helpful guys! :) I'll be practicing a bit more first then hopefully be able to apply to this group soon! :)

BTW is it the job of a cleaner to remove the text too?

Is there any good way for you guys to do the inking? Burn or the use pen and then fill in tool?

Meet The Staff / Re: Hello, and a question.
« on: November 11, 2012, 05:03:29 pm »

Those are fine. But you will have to download and install denoise 3 as well:

Ok, just finished downloading that.

As for denoise. You should sharpen the page before denoising to make the patterns "pop out" a bit.
You're denoising to get rid of the dirt on pages, the black spots and imperfections on the parts that should be gray.
As for denoising, you should use first denoise 3: Set all the sliders to 0, then move only the Suppress Noise, clean, and reduce blur sliders.
After the initial denoise 3 use denoise 5. Move the Overall str and reduce blur sliders only.

Is it possible to get a couple screenshots of those? I am having some trouble understanding what are really the "noise" and what aren't.

Level after denoising at 8000px height. This way it's really hard to over level. If your page is becoming yellowish, then you haven't made the page grayscale mode before leveling.
Do this every time: Image > Mode > Grayscale mode.
The black marker should be on the right of the first hill. The white marker should be on the left of the 2nd hill. If that makes sense, if not ask and I'll post a picture.
Also don't use the blur tool, or use a surface blur after leveling. If there are white spots then you aren't denoising and leveling properly. If they're still there after proper denoising then you should wait until you downsize to final size (1200px-1300px height) then burn at that time.

Ohhh, no wonder cuz I changed it to RGB mode for the denoising. What happens if you don't have 2 hills, and you just have one hill?
Oh right, sorry about the confusion, I accidentally typed blur instead of burn.

Another question, what are the jobs of a cleaner? Like what do they have to fully do because some tutorials on how to be a cleaner are much more different so I'm quite confused at the moment.

Meet The Staff / Re: Hello, and a question.
« on: November 10, 2012, 07:28:14 am »
Thank you very much! :) I'll try it out tomorrow morning.

Meet The Staff / Re: Hello, and a question.
« on: November 10, 2012, 06:40:36 am »
I  have Topaz Denoise 5 and Topaz Clean 3

I am also using Adobe Photoshop CS6 Extended

Are those good enough?

I was recently following this thread on sense-scans

And was playing around with that raw but couldn't manage to get as good as that final picture since most of the links don't work.

I don't really understand what Denoise is for and what am I trying to blur out and how much is enough of blurring.

Next is Leveling, how do you know how far to level? Drag too little of the white marker the page becomes yellowish, and too much it becomes too bright. As for the other markers, I just estimate how far to drag without any real experience so yeah.

After that I tried to blur but when I blur, it isn't completely black at all, there are a number of white spots on the places that should be fully black like the shirt and pants. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for all the help! :)

Meet The Staff / Hello, and a question.
« on: November 09, 2012, 07:03:43 am »
Hi, I'm a new member, just joined today and I just started to get into some cleaning but I am having some troubles with the denoise and leveling part of the cleaning. Is anyone who is quite skilled in this area willing to partake some time into teaching me how to clean like a pro? I kinda wanna help sense scans release AKB faster lol.

Thanks :)

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